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Welcome to Venture Step Podcast where we discuss entrepreneurship, industry trends, and the occasional mock review. What if there was this one thing that could fix your mental and physical health, your career, your relationships? How willing would you be to listen? Well, it's just discipline. No secret, no course being offered. Just a simple word, discipline.

but hard to follow through on. I thought it'd be fitting to talk about this one today because, well, sometimes these episodes are difficult to record. This one, in fact, is. It's my birthday last weekend, and I'm quite tired. And so here I am, recording the episode, sharing my energy and time with you, as you are as a listener, sharing your energy and time to the show. I'm your host, Dalton Anderson.

I have a bit of mixed background in programming, data science and insurance. Offline, you could find me running, building my side business or lost in a good book. If you want to watch this podcast and video and see what I look like, you can do so on YouTube. If audio is more your thing, you can find the podcast on Spotify, Apple podcasts, YouTube or wherever else you get your podcasts.

Today we're gonna be discussing discipline. High level view, we're gonna be talking about understanding discipline as there's two types, the power of discipline, building good habits and talking about habit loops. And then some of my personal practical strategies of doing discipline. Okay, so the first thing that we need to describe is the different types of discipline and.

What is discipline? And in my opinion, discipline is the ability to control your impulses, emotions, and behaviors in order to accomplish or pursue a goal. Slash value, whatever, like you're, you're doing something for an outcome and for you to accomplish the outcome, you need to do a certain set of tasks or whatever, or act a certain way. But there's two different types of discipline.

This show is only going to be discussing one type. The other type we're going to throw out. So the type that we're going to throw out is external discipline, which is imposed by, you guys said, external factors. And this would be, you know, when your mom and dad are telling you you have to go to bed when you're a youngin', and they're like, well, if you don't go to bed, you're grounded. The big G word.

And so you go to bed. But if your mom and dad were out and about in the home, you probably wouldn't have gone to sleep because you didn't necessarily want to. Self -discipline is internally driven. So say that this same analogy, your kid, you've got training in the morning with the team or chess practice or music practice or whatever practice you have, or you have to get up early and help your brother or cook for the family. I don't know. And you know that.

your day is going to be pretty rough if you don't get enough sleep because you have to get up early. So you enforce to yourself, hey, I'm going to go to bed early and I'll have a good day tomorrow. That's a really simple example. Participating ripples throughout your life in many areas, your relationships, your work.

fitness, financial goals, discipline, in my opinion, is the purest form of self -love.

There's a spectrum of different disciplines. As I was saying, they're in different areas. There's work discipline, there's health, finances. But if you're disciplined in one area, you could probably be disciplined in all of them. So maybe you might be disciplined in your fitness, but not necessarily in your work or relationships. If you can discover your habit loops on dealing with your emotions, then you could transfer those things to...

the areas where you're not disappointed.

And there's different forms of discipline. It could be sticking to your schedule, resisting temptation, pushing through discomfort, or it could be all three of those combined. It can be many, many different items in different areas of your life. I think when people talk about discipline, a lot of times in these motivational videos, they talk about the discipline to keep pushing forward and fitness or something like that.

And a lot of times it's related to sports and motivational speaking. This isn't a motivational podcast episode or podcast in general. It is a podcast of curiosity. And through that curiosity, sometimes like episodes like these, I have a hard time recording it because I'm exhausted. And there was a period where when I first started this episode, I...

was sick and so I lived in Mexico City for a month and I came back pretty sick. I lost 20 pounds in a couple weeks and I not to brag or anything but I don't have much weight to give away and so I was definitely depleted having issues making it through my work day.

not enough energy to work out, not enough energy to do any extra activities. And I was just really struggling every week to get on here and record an episode because my throat was killing me. I couldn't stop coughing. My nose was clogged. So it felt like I was suffocating because I didn't want to cough and I didn't want to affect the quality of the episode.

why I was recording it. And man, I really, there was a couple of times I just really just didn't, didn't want to do the episode. And so that could be an example of like staying on schedule. Okay, I do an episode every week, but how do you do that? How do you convince yourself that this is something that you should be doing? I think that comes with discipline and I thought that's why I should be talking about it a little bit today.

There are some reasons that you may lack discipline and you should discover that within yourself. It could be the lack of motivation. So the lack of motivation could be from not having a clear outcome and a measurable goal.

So in this podcast example, I mentioned on the episode that, hey, I'm sorry that I hadn't recorded an episode in a couple of years. I was traveling, I was in school, I was super busy, I just finished my masters. Now I'm ready. And I'm gonna commit to you and the listeners to record an episode once a week. And I'm gonna do at least 10 minutes. I didn't commit to something crazy.

I didn't say I'm gonna do a one hour episode of just crazy amount of research every week and I'm gonna have Elon Musk on my podcast episode. I didn't say some insane lofty thing. I made...

a very easy goal. I mean, anyone could, you could talk to your friend on the phone for 10 minutes every day and you wouldn't even know. So to record one episode on video per week for 10 minutes, it's not that difficult. So my advice on sticking to a schedule is to trick yourself a little bit. So maybe a little fib, you know, not lying, but a little fib like, well,

I'm just going to record this episode. It's going to be 10 minutes. And after you get started, you might have more things to say. And so, and there's been a couple of episodes where I was like, I really, all I've got in me is 10 minutes. That's all I got. And it winds up being a lot more than that. There was a couple of episodes where I was like, okay, well, I, I like to really talk about her or.

Complete is just a little bit over 10 minutes. I'm just there's nothing left in me. It's been a long work day and I'm just depleted. What if you commit to 10 minutes? It's not that hard or if you don't want to go to the gym and work out you say all right, well I won't commit to an hour and a half brutal workout, but I could commit to

one set of something. I don't know, shoulder press, bench press, deadlift, squat, whatever. So I'll do one set of squats. To do one set of squats, you've got to warm up, you've got to do exercises to get your legs warm, you've got to wait for a rack, you've got to put the weights on there, take off the old weights if they didn't take them off. There's a whole bunch of steps to get to that one set.

on squat. And once you're there, you're not just going to believe right away. So if you commit to these small actions, you can really snowball into big outcomes. Same thing with running. If you don't really want to run, it's hot out like, maybe your goal is to run three miles a day. Your legs are sore and you don't want to be there.

commit to half a mile like i'll do half a mile and then before you know it you ran your three so you could you can you can trick your mind into

You could trick your mind into doing things that you necessarily wouldn't do. And you could do that without willpower. So that was, that was sorry about struggling with discipline and a little, a little snippet of like what I do. And that really works for me where I just break it down into really, really small steps to get me moving. And then once I'm moving, then I'll complete what I originally came there for.

Say, all right, well, now you can do X. And I was running on the weekend and I committed to my friend to run six miles and we got to the six mile mark and I mentally was gonna do 10, but I didn't necessarily tell him let's do 10 because he would have been like, no, man, I'm tired. And so I like.

Five and a half. Yeah, like these, these miles feel good. Let's, let's just double it. He's like, sure. Yeah, why not? But if I would have started that run, like, all right, we're running 10 today. It's 90 plus degrees out. We don't have any water. We don't have any run backs. We don't have any nutrition. It's a different story. And so if you're trying to do hard things with your friends or hard things with yourself, just, just.

Just slowly stack on it. Just move the goalposts on yourself. Just move the goalposts is my advice on that.

And I did briefly mention that the lack of motivation could be from you not having a clear goal.

Once you have a clear goal, then you have accountability. And so another thing that I did with this podcast episode where I announced like, Hey, I'm sorry. I want to record episodes every week is I announced it. You could, you could either do an internal thing or sometimes you do internal motivation with external. So I put this public announcement to the very few listeners that I have.

Hey, I'm gonna record an episode every week. And if not, then well, they're never gonna contact me, but I let them down. Like I told them I'm gonna record an episode every week. And if I do that, then it keeps me accountable. Like not only am I accountable to myself, but I'm accountable to these imaginary people.

They're not necessarily imaginary, they're real, but they're not going to contact me and be like, Hey, like you said, you said one week every week. And this week I didn't get a new episode. No one's going to do that. But in my head, in my head, they're there. They're watching me. If that makes sense. I sometimes do that. Or I would imagine.

Bye, man.

a rival, like a rival. It's a bit crazy, but thought process on that is you could see someone that you're chasing, then you can you can keep pushing. So I still do it to this day. I was a freshman on the varsity cross country team and there was a senior on there. His name was DK and I couldn't ever beat him.

on any of the practice runs or the races. And so when I was training, I was always chasing him. I was chasing, I was hunting him down every practice, every race. I was like, I'm gonna beat him. I'm gonna try to beat him. So not only did that push me, that pushed him. So we kept pushing each other. But when he was gone, I had no one to chase. And so I would just imagine that he was in front of me and I would just keep pushing.

And so I do that on my runs to help me push through some of my runs where I see him 20 feet ahead. That sounds insane, but that's true. That's what I do. So maybe, maybe if you're a bit crazy, that works, but it works for me. And I haven't talked to the dude for a long time. Like, I don't know. It's been so long. It's been what like,

like eight years or something. So that could help. If you feel you're failure, you could have fear of failure. And I think that it's a separate conversation, but I think failure should be viewed differently. And I would change out failure with feedback, where feedback from society or feedback from your professional colleagues, where if you fail, it's not necessarily a failure, it's feedback.

and say like, hey, like this wasn't the right approach to to get this job or you don't have the right skills doesn't necessarily mean that you're a failure. It just means that you got feedback and that's a that's an area where you can improve and that's an area that is actionable. Someone gave you an actual line where you yourself can attack.

And so if you have, you know, you don't have technical skills, enough technical skills to operate this job or you need to be forklift certified. That's something you can do. And so I don't think that's failure or a poor outcome. I just think that that's just feedback and that feedback can be incorporated in however way you wish. You can take it as, wow, I'm not. I'm not able to get the job because they don't want to.

me or whatever or you'd be like well they told me what I need to do and I'm gonna do those things and I'll come back maybe not that same company but this is what I want to do or this is this is what I need to make the team or whatever and so I wouldn't view failure as something bad it's it's alright to fail.

I mean, you hear that all the time, but how do you become terms with it? I think you just gotta say it is what it is. Like, hey, I failed a couple of times and hopefully one time I'll succeed. If your expectation is that you'll fail, you'll be really impressed when you succeed.

And there's another factor that people struggle to have discipline on these like long delayed gratification objectives is instant gratification. I think that really messes up things. So instant gratification is related to maybe putting a post on TikTok and going viral or

posting on social media and getting a lot of dopamine from that or when you're sad you go on social media or when you're upset you have a beer, when you have a celebration you have a beer. Those aren't necessarily as related to Instagramification but that's more like Instagramification to your emotions to where you're having, you're forming bad habit loops.

There's something that you can fight doing these things that you don't want to do without having this one. And that's willpower, but willpower depletes over time. So studies and studies on the brain and I'm not gonna get too technical to the brain stuff because I'm not a neuroscientist, but basically your brain is, we all know this, like you're structured with different cortexes and there's some other stuff going on in there.

But basically your long -term goals is controlled by one cortex and then your decision -making is controlled by another cortex or the frontal cortex. And those things have to interact with each other constantly to make sure like, hey, are these things that I'm doing, want to do right now enable me to do the things I want to do long -term, like my long -term goals, my long -term outcomes that I want, that I'm pursuing.

And over time, your brain gets...

fatigue and after that fatigue sets in your cortex is no longer communicate as much as they should and you are not disciplined in your decisions anymore using willpower as it's depleted. One way to fight your lack of willpower that you have after a fatigue is discipline. That comes with

I would say delayed gratification. We all know delayed gratification like goal achievement, financial wellbeing, health, fitness, relationships, career development, mental wellbeing.

But how do you...

How do you get?

the power of discipline and accepting delayed gratification. I think you start small, you start really small. I don't even think you worry about these things. You could build what you want at the end and work your way backwards and say, okay, this is what I need to do, but that might be overwhelming. So I think the first step is to get started. Who cares about having a schedule, having all these goals and just get started and start working on whatever you want.

And while you're doing that, you'll build habits over time. And I have a story about habits. So when I was doing my masters, it was a lot of hours doing those coding projects and writing those papers and reports. And I had work on top of that. And I'm not saying that's special or anything like that. There's millions of people that do this, those things.

and I've done it before. So it's not a special, a special event. But during that time, we're working long hours at work and working long hours on my computer. One, I didn't form the best habits over time. It took me two years to finish the master's part -time. So I formed bad habits.

One of which was not being as disciplined as I wanted to be. And I recognized that because I recognized that because when I had a coding thing that needed to be done, I would try to delay it because I knew it was going to take like 15 hours. And it's going to take a long time to set everything up on my computer, get all the libraries to run, all sorts of issues. And I just didn't want to do it.

recognizing that I had really depleted the discipline that I used to have, where it was difficult for me to just do things that needed to get done. And I was kind of pushing them to the side. I got concerned. And I said like, hey, this isn't the person that used to be highly disciplined and used to be able to do things that...

needed to be done without having to force yourself or use willpower. It just came natural. And so I did a challenge and you can do a challenge too. There's many challenges and there's apps and communities for them, but I did the 75 bar challenge. And so you're not familiar with the 75 bar, it's working out.

Twice a day and taking a picture of your results. The workouts have to be split and they need to be an hour and a half apart and one workout needs to be outside every day. And you can't drink alcohol or do drugs. I didn't know that and so I went on the boat one time and I had a couple beers. So technically I failed the 75 part. But I don't say that to people. It's an inside secret that just you know.

as a listener. Okay, so I did the 75 hard and the 75 hard is difficult because you know, it is difficult because you have to work out twice a day and things come up and you don't necessarily have everything planned out and you might wake up late one morning and not be able to work out. So then after work, you've got to work out twice and then they have to be an hour and a half apart and you're

struggling to get it done because you gotta get it done before 12 and you might get home late from work if you drive to the office because of an accident and so you've got all these factors pushing against you and you have to push back pretty hard and

over time for those 75 days, I think the first 15 days are pretty easy. You get 20 plus, probably around like the 37th day mark, 35 day mark, it starts to get pretty tough. Your body starts to get fatigue and you actually have to start pushing pretty hard to get a good workout in. and one more thing I forgot about the 75, you have to read too.

Yeah, sorry, that's important too. Yeah, I read. But that wasn't a big deal for myself. Anyways, so you have all these external factors pushing on to you to not complete your goals and you have to push back. And this could be family, this could be work, this could be whatever.

And once you complete the 70 foot heart, you're a bit more disciplined. I did it. I live in Florida, so I did it during the summertime. It was super hot and always raining. And so I was either soaked and then the sun came out and I was just soaked and it was like steamy, steamy warm. And or it could be. Just crazy hot and humid.

It was so hot, I guess, I think to yesterday or today that grass on University of South Florida caught on fire. I don't know if someone caught on fire or what, but it looked pretty dry. I do know that if you have like mounds of, what is it, mulch, they have to water the mulch because the mulch will catch on fire if you don't water it because it gets hot. Anyways.

That could be fake news with the grass catching on fire. I have no idea. Probably shouldn't have said that live. But we don't do edits, so just throwing that out there. That could be fake news. I don't know.

So the power of discipline, you can get that over time, small baby steps, building a schedule.

Resisting temptations.

pushing through discomfort. Once you combine all those, then you become something else, I guess. You turn into a butterfly. You go from caterpillar to butterfly. That's what they say. I haven't turned into a butterfly just yet, but I could feel my back a little bit. I think that's kind of pushing through. The wings are pushing through to the other side. Okay.

So this was talked about in Dicking and Bats, Dicking and Bats by, I had to look around, I had to look around, there's a bit of books behind me, so it's Annie Duke. Dicking and Bats by Annie Duke, she talks about a couple things that in the episode that are discussed is truth -seeking groups, which are rare and uncommon, and basically you need to find those to.

have people hold you accountable and make sure that you're doing the things that you should be doing to accomplish what you want. And habits. And so it talks about building positive habit loops or habits. And so in truCyclic groups, you focus on the good things and not necessarily negative things that are happening. And you read you do positive reinforcement. TruCyclic groups are important because

If you have bad habits, those people will call you out. And that's huge because you might not, you might not recognize that you are doing something that doesn't align with yourself. And example for myself was after my masters, I had horrible posture for some reason, my posture.

And maybe we could hire an investigator to see and guess, but I'm pretty sure it's from me being on the computer nonstop for two years straight, like 10 hours a day for 70s a week. So I think that's why. But I don't know. But yeah, that's what it was from. And I didn't necessarily recognize how bad my posture was. And it took me...

Probably like seven months to fix it and I always had really nice posture and I still catch myself sometimes with poor posture and I'm like, no. But it took me a while and my mom constantly calling me out. She's like, your posture's horrible. You used to have good posture, what happened? And every time I'd see her, she was just calling me out and just slaughtering me about my posture. In a good way though, like not in a bad way. And...

Obviously it's disappointing myself because I wanted to have good posture.

So no one, I wouldn't say no one, but if you weren't, and I guess I would include my mom in a troops scene group or someone like that is gonna always want the best for you.

Hopefully, right? I can only hope so. And if not, you can find someone else. But anyways, so my mom was calling me out about my posture, but none of my other friends were, because they're not part of the Trucean group and they're not calling me out on things that I'm doing wrong. So you want a Trucean group. And then the second thing is your habit loops.

So a habit loop, there's a couple things. There's a cue, there's a craving, there's a response, there's a reward. A negative habit loop would be something like feeling bored, anxious. You have a desire for distraction or comfort. Response, you go and you scroll through endless amounts of TikToks for 45 minutes.

The reward is a temporary distraction or amusement, but often followed by feelings of guilt or dissatisfaction. Positive habit loop, feeling tired, stressed after work. Craving, you have a desire for relaxation and the ability to de -stress. Response, you go for a 30 minute walk in the park.

Reward you feel refreshed, energized and less stressed.

So I say these two things to kind of give you an example of positive and negative loops, because you might have a negative loop, but you don't necessarily know it. And you can recognize that yourself, or hopefully someone close to you and they're part of your true seating group would call you out and be like, hey, like this is not you, what's going on?

But to summarize, you have cue craving response, or sorry, response reward. So cue craving response reward. That is your habit loop and your habit loop will affect your discipline. It will affect your ability to accomplish your goals.

Once you recognize your poor habits, you can slowly move towards a good outcome. And one of the things that you need to do is if you don't have discipline, you recognize a poor habit and say, you do nicotine or something like you let's, let's, let's throw this out. So we'll do you're feeling stress from life. You crave the ability to

to relax and de -stress. Response, you rip your jewel or something like that. You smoke your jewel. If you're not feeling your jewel, it's like an electronic e -cigarette. Anyways, the reward is you feel refreshed or less stressed, but that normally comes with a bit of guilt, because you're like, hey, you hit your jewel, you don't wanna hit that. Switch that out, you're like, hey, I'm not doing jewel anymore.

I don't believe in that. Okay. So then you, you fall back. You, you don't necessarily do jewel anymore, but then it comes down to you feeling stress from life. Again, you crave the ability to relax and your response is you don't do jewel. You'll do.

like those lip things. I don't even know what they're called, but you put it in like a lip pouch. So you're not necessarily doing drool, but you're still getting that nicotine from some other product and some other method, but it's not the same as drool. It's still different, but same actions. And so you feel relaxed, but with a little bit of guilt, right?

So when you're switching out your bad habits, you have to have discipline to make sure that, hey, when I switch this bad habit out, I'm not interchanging it with something else that's bad. And so I see this all the time when my friends are like, well, I'm spending too much time on Instagram. I can't be doing this as a waste of my time. I'm spending like two hours a day on Instagram. Why do I care about this?

So they delete Instagram and then they fill it in with something else. So well, now that I'm on, now I delete Instagram, I'm not spending any time on Instagram, but I'm just doing it on Snapchat or I'm doing it on Reddit or TikTok.

If you don't have discipline to alter your behavior, you need to recognize if you're altering your behavior that you can't interchange that with something else. So if you're trying to alter your behavior and say, okay, I'm having a difficult time being on social media, I'm going to delete this social media app. So I won't spend as much time.

If you still have other social media apps, then you're just going to interchange that with something else. So you need to be disciplined and say, okay, I have a hard time on social media. Not spending enough time. Maybe you set a limit or you just delete them all together. Whatever you wind up doing, but you need to make sure that you just don't just swap them out because that's no good. And I see that quite a bit. Okay. So you can.

alter your behaviors if you have discipline, but you have to recognize first, hey, I don't want to interchange that. I want to go to the source of the problem. And I want to have a positive feedback loop and not a negative one. Once you figure that all out, that you have a ripple effect, that ripple effect, snowball effect, whatever you want to call it. And once you get that down, you can.

Transfer that to different areas of your life. So you could do You could do a fitness. That's something I do is I do a fitness I do I have a big fitness habit where I try to work out constantly and it's not necessarily me trying to like look huge or Be, you know super strong or anything like that, which which I I'm in good shape and I am pretty strong

But it's really not about that. It's about the discipline of doing the things that you don't want to do. And when I'm going through these brutal workouts, whether I'm helping my friend who's going to potentially try out for, I guess not try out, but beyond the national team to play in the World Cup. And so he's getting his fitness levels up before he goes to train with the team.

And he's training, you know, at least twice a day with these tough workouts, because he's going to be in the shape of a professional athlete, but he needs to be in the shape of a professional athlete within like a couple of months. So he was already in good shape, but to take it to that other level, that next level, you've got to do crazy workouts. And so I'm helping him train. And it's brutal. And I have no, my motivation is to help him help him accomplish his goal.

Long story short is I use fitness as an outlook to be disciplined and I use the Venture Step podcast to have this be a loop of discipline for myself where I record an episode every week. I have to keep reading and I need to be informed and I need to reach out with other entrepreneurs. Those things.

the fitness things, that ripples to the rest of my life. And so I'm disciplined and I control my emotions and I measure it in my responses.

But you don't necessarily have to be the best in all those areas right away, because if you get one area right, and maybe it's studying or practicing chess or whatever you want to do, if you focus on one area, you can ripple it and do a direct transfer to other areas. And it's not a direct transfer, like with fitness, it's more of a...

You can like will it into existence. Like you can be disciplined in your workouts and you can push through and really push yourself to the max of your abilities every week, week in, week out. But you can't actually do that with a career. You can't just will it into existence by just pushing hard. Like you have to be patient sometimes. You have to be understanding.

All these other things. So you might have to have different attributes for what you're trying to do, but the part of being disciplined transfers directly to these other areas of life. So how can you fuel your discipline? You can do a challenge. Like I talked about earlier, you can do progressive overload, which is something that I do and schools do quite often where you work on a small problem, the problem becomes more complicated.

time and you basically become more comfortable you become more comfortable my gosh you're like confident and comfortable comfortable you

become more comfortable with heavier mental and physical loads. With school, it's mental where you start out with a problem and it becomes more complicated over time.

very common in my like my you know in any of those programs at school right away does you know just drop you in and to the dungeon the knowledge dungeon you kind of work your way over there and you become a little more confident over time and then they say all right now now it's for real and it gets serious pretty quick.

So you could do a challenge, you could do progressive overload, which is common in physical and mental exercises. And then you can also find your why. And your why could be your deeper purpose of why you're doing something and use that as a motivation and a way to be disciplined when you face obstacles. But I would make sure that your why...

gives you a little bit more discipline than motivation because motivation is not permanent. I would describe it and it's been described as and I've heard this, it's not my original thought, but motivation is a good shower. It's something you need to have, but really what gets the gears moving every day, day in, day out is discipline.

So you can have daily routines, you could do, you could have accountability, you could... Accountability to yourself. Once again, to round off this episode, motivation is the purest form of self -love, in my opinion.

How do you stay disciplined? I would like to hear from you where what are some things that you were struggling with and how did you fix your habit loop or how did you become more disciplined and how did that affect your life? If you feel willing and able to share that, please leave a comment and I'll respond and talk about it in the next show. It's been a while since I talked about comments and I have got some.

I don't get that many, so I kind of rambled them off off the top of my head. Someone said, where's your podcast? While he was listening to the podcast, and I told him, hey, you can listen to on Spotify and send him a link. There was someone who said, you look like Pablo Escobar's son. And I said.

Okay, that's pretty funny. It was before he even had the mustache. So I was like, what's going on? Or after I got the mustache. So I meant to say it wasn't even before I had the mustache. It was after I had the mustache. So that didn't necessarily make as much sense. But that's what they said. I said, hey, like that's super funny. And appreciate your comment. And I hope you enjoy the show.

Final thoughts to the group here. I think, you know, once again, discipline would ripple throughout your whole life and it's difficult to be disciplined as it is many things in life that are required of you. Discipline will help you achieve the things that you want deep down. And...

To be disciplined and discipline gives you confidence in yourself as it's the purest form of self love. Discipline allows you to do things that others would never dare to do. Discipline allows you to be happy when you see yourself in the mirror. Discipline allows you to be the loving partner that you've ever wanted to be. Discipline allows you to...

progress in your relationship at work with your colleagues to show up every day when you don't necessarily want to be there and to be a good colleague and a good workmate and push out productivity for the company or your company and for your peers to be a good leader, to be a good friend. Because there's not every day you want to show up and...

be the person that you're expected to be. And you know, that's okay. And that's all right. But to be disciplined allows you to do these things consistently. And to be disciplined is to be a good citizen to your society. I think that there's a quote from Marcus Aurelius. I don't have the full quote, but we can paraphrase it.

And it talks about, I guess I can't paraphrase it. I don't want to mess it up that bad, but.

You are a soldier. You are a citizen. You are a father. You are...

Abbas, you are a ruler. And this was what Marcus Aurelius was saying to himself. You are a citizen of Rome. It is your duty to carry these out without the prying eyes of others. This is your duty to willfully carry these out with the pride of others. To do these things, you need to have discipline, obviously, but you need to recognize like, hey, like you are...

in all parts of life and you need to do your duty that you have in society.

On that note, I am going to close this out. I committed to 10 minutes as I didn't want to be here and here we are 46 minutes later. Maybe half of that is just me rambling on about nonsense.

Maybe you find it valuable if you do. I hope you tune in next week as we're gonna have someone very knowledgeable on the show to talk about branding and branding company branding after starting multiple companies and having a successful exit with a sale. She will be discussing how to go about branding with different industries. And I'm quite excited to hear from her. And I hope you guys are too.

Have a great day, a good night, a good evening, wherever you are in this world. I'll see you next week, bye.